Q: How do I know if my houseboat will support a PWC Rail?
A: Generally, even relatively small welded aluminum houseboats will handle the weight. By "small" we mean about 50 feet long and 14 feet wide. If your boat is smaller than that, it might not be able to handle the weight of a PWC that is leveraged off the back.
Most modern 3-seater PWC’s are just under 1,000 pounds. With our Rail design, almost all of that weight is leveraged (cantilevered) beyond the swim platform, so there is a significant amount of weight that will affect your boat in two ways:
1) Structural stress on your swim platform.
2) The flotation level of your boat. Obviously, the smaller your boat, the more the weight of a PWC (or two) will "squat" it down in the water. That might not matter to you, depending on your goals. If you only want a way to store your PWC while not using your boat, then the angle in the water won't matter because you will unload your PWC before using your boat.
Click here to read more about how to know if your swim platform can handle the weight.
If you have a yacht, cruiser, fiberglass hull, bolted-on swim platform, or any boat that is shorter than 50 feet, our Cross-Deck Models might be the best solution for you.
Q: Which side of my houseboat should I install my Rails on?
A: Since our Rails are mounted completely on the swim platform, you don’t need to consider stairs or a/c units. If your houseboat has a little list to one side or the other, then you would want to put your Rails on the higher side. If you refuel your PWC with a pump from your houseboat tanks, then you would probably want the gas cap of your PWC toward the inside to make it easier to reach. If you are installing 2 Rails...one on each side, then you generally want to mount them as far to the outside as possible so that when loaded, the PWC's aren't any wider than your houseboat. A little narrower is even safer when maneuvering around a cove or gas dock.
Q: Can I mount these Rails over the top of my swim ladder or next to my slide?
A: Yes. That is one of the big advantages of the Tilt-Up Rails. If the only place on your swim deck that is available is over your slide, you can mount it right there. With your PWC unloaded and your Rails tilted up, you can use your ladder just like always. You can also mount it next to your slide. Modern 3-seaters are over 4 feet wide but the Rail tubes are only 16.5 inches wide, so you can mount the Rails in such a way that your PWC us partly under your slide. When you are ready to use the slide, just unload your PWC, tilt the Rails up, and start sliding. Click here to see an installation like that.
Q: If I get 2 Rails (2 of our lift systems), can I use just one winch and save some money?
A: The winches are a relatively small portion of the cost, and they bolt to the frame. So it would be a significant hassle to swap the winch back and forth. Also, that would require that you have additional 12-volt wiring lying on the deck so it would reach the other side. It just isn't practical for such a small amount of savings, so we don't recommend it.
Q: How long are the Rails?
A: The flat portion of the standard Rails are 82 inches long and the angled entry-end is 18 inches long for a total of 100 inches. Most modern 3-seater PWC's are about 11 or 12 feet long, so a substantial portion of your PWC will extend beyond the Rails. When loaded, the center of gravity (CG) of your PWC will be securely on the rear of the Rails. The hulls of PWC's are structurally self-supporting, so there is no need for the Rails to extend all the way to their stern.
We also offer extra long 12-Foot Rails for high deck mounting installations such as houseboats and pontoon boats without swim platforms, and decks and pier installations. Click here to read more about these long Rails.
Q: Do I need 8-Foot Rails or the 12-Foot Model?
A: Our 8-Foot Rails are designed for houseboats with swim platforms, which, by definition, are close to the water…usually about 8 to 12 inches above the water-line. So the 8-Foot Rails are almost parallel with the water. Most 3-seater PWC’s are about 12 feet long, so about 4 feet of the rear of your PWC will be out beyond the end of the Rails. But that’s OK because the Rails are almost level, so the rear of your PWC will be out of the water where no algae or other contaminants can form on your thruster or steering mechanism. The rear of your PWC has very little weight, so it supports itself. The engine is the majority of the weight, and it is well up onto the level part of the Rails and very secure.
Without a low-to-the-water swim platform, mounting on a higher deck, the 8-Foot Rails would have to be at a much steeper angle in order to reach close enough to the water to engage the hull of the PWC. That would result in the rear of your PWC being in the water where it would quickly become contaminated.
The 12-Foot Rails are designed for high deck installations. Because of their length, they can be at a more gradual angle, and PWC’s are fully contained on the Rails which are above the water…so no contamination.
This picture shows more dimensions of our Standard 8-Foot Rails. The 12-Foot Rails are the same, except for the overall length is 144 inches.
Q: Is the width of the Rails adjustable?
A: No, the width is fixed. The inside width of the rails is 13", and the outside width is 17". This will accommodate all PWC's. It is possible that the chines along the hull with some models might cause the PWC to rest at a slight angle if one chine is up on one rail and the chine on the opposite side of the PWC is down just inside the rail. But this would be rare, and would not cause any problem at all.
Q: PWC Hulls are V-shaped and the Rails are rectangular? Is that a problem? Shouldn't they be slanted inward to match the hull?
A: Hull shapes of different models vary significantly. But they all have in common a significant initial "V" that will push hard against the inside of the UHMW-covered rails, and a gradual flattening toward the stern that will rest on more of the surface of the UHMW. Our Rail tubes are custom fabricated with the top-inside corner rounded similar to the shape of a pipe. The 1/4” thick x 2 1/8” wide UHMW is anchored to the top of the 2x4 inch aluminum tubing with a series of recessed blind rivets positioned toward the inside edge. The top inside corner of the tubing is radiused and the UHMW forms over that radius as the PWC hull presses down on it. This forms a rounded UHMW surface against the PWC’s fiberglass hull as illustrated in this drawing. The 1/4” wall thickness of the heavy duty rails and the full 2x4 inch tubing profile make the tubes much stronger than round pipes. They can handle any amount of weight that is cantilevered off the back of a swim platform.
Q: How easy is it to tilt my Rails up and down?
A: Because of the angle of the gas-shock lift-arm to the Rails, it allows the weight of the Rails to rest firmly on your swim platform when unloaded (the "push" is mostly parallel to the Rails). With just a little bit of one-handed lifting effort, it tilts the Rails up to the upright position where the lift arm will safely hold them in an upright position when you are using your swim platform. The Heavy Duty Rails require more lift, but still an easy task for one-person. You can order a second lift arm if you are getting Heavy Duty Rails (see the order form). In the upright position, the "push" of the lift-arm is at an angle to the Rails, so they are held securely in place. To lower them, you just push them down. As they move away from the upright position, they will reach the point at which the lift arm gas shocks will not have enough leverage to hold them up, so you support them as you lower to the loading position resting on the aft-end of your swim platform. The lift-arm effect is similar to the back door of a min-van or SUV.
Q: When my Rails are Tilted-Up, will they reach my upper deck?
A: Most upper decks extend to the end of the rear deck, but not over the swim platform, so even our 12-Foot Rails won't touch the upper deck. Additionally, since the Rails are mounted down a step or two, that gives additional clearance. The 8-Foot Rails are 87 inches long to the beginning of the loading angle, and 103 inches overall including the pivot connection. With this configuration, they will not touch the upper deck of most houseboats. But even your upper deck extends out over the swim platform and that stops the Rails from going to a full upright position, that is OK since the lift arm will hold them as high as they can go. They will still be out of the way and give you a fully-open swim platform.
Q: Do I need to use a Safety Tether?
A: Yes. There are two kinds of tethering that we STRONGLY recommend:
1) As pictured here, when tilted up, wrap the winch line around the cross member to prevent unintended lowering the Rails.
2) When your PWC is loaded and winched up, we recommend that you add a secondary tether that connects your PWC to something other than the winch drum. Then, relax the tension on the winch so that the majority of tension is on the tether. Click here to see the easiest way to do that.
Q: After I place an order, how fast can I get my PWC Rails?
A: We try to keep an inventory so we can ship immediately. But this depends on the current flow of orders. Please ask about the timing based on the current orders.
Q: What are the terms of payment?
A: We ship upon receipt of the payment. If we don't have inventory to ship immediately, you can place the order without payment (unless custom work is needed) and we will let you know when to send the payment. We prefer checks, but will accept Visa, credit card or Discover with a 3% additional service fee..
Q: What is the shipping cost and method?
A: The complete Rail Kits are shipped from Dayton Ohio, 45342. You can arrange to pick them up here if you wish.
The packaging of our standard 8-Foot Rails is 103x18x10 inches and 100 pounds and ships within the United States for about $250 depending on the region. If ordered in
June we will charge a flat $180 and cover the difference. .
Note: It cannot be shipped to a residentially-zoned address because it exceeds the 70-pound residential limit. So you will need to provide a commercially-zoned address. Many customers have us ship directly to their marina.
If you are outside the Continental USA, we can get an exact shipping quote when you confirm the quantity you want.
If you are ordering the 12-Foot Rails, please ask about shipping.
Q: Do you provide installation?
A: We don't provide installers. Most of our Rails are customer-installed. But if you are not comfortable with self-installation, perhaps a pier-mate will help you. Most young marina employees are comfortable with a drill and 12-volt wiring and will do it after hours for $100 or so with you helping them. Most people consider it a very simple process. You can read full installation instructions here.
We are offering over $1,000 in total discounts for orders placed in
June! Click here for detailed pricing.
If you have any other questions about our PWC Rails, please don’t hesitate to ask. You can call me directly at 1-937-985-5863 (Eastern USA), or send us an email.